May 102013
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

We are in the middle of a system upgrade to Windows Server 2008R2 and Citrix Xenapp 6.5 for our terminal servers in a ThinManager environment.  To test the new system,  I set up an application and have been trying to run it as an application link and I can’t get it to work. I keep getting the following error message:

"Connection Error- The application you are trying to open is currently unavailable"

If I logon on to the desktop without using application link, I can run the program from the run prompt using the same text string and it works.  Any ideas?

 

The short answer is that ThinManager will function properly using Citrix in a ThinManager environment via Windows Server 2008R2.  Please see the enclosed link for tech notes regarding getting ThinManager and Citrix:

http://www.thinmanager.com/kb/index.php/Xen_App_6_Fundamentals

-TM

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I had initially downloaded a demo version of ThinManager to run it in a test environment with our current HMI and system architecture and have decided to move forward with full deployment but I’m having some issues with applying my new license.  How do I navigate between the demo license, product license, and master license?

 

Please see the License Activation Article on the ThinManager Knowledge Base for details on how to license and activate the software. You will need to Create a Master License, Populate it with your Product License, then activate:


http://www.thinmanager.com/kb/index.php/License_Activation

-TM  

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We are looking into using the TermSecure functionality in ThinManager 6.0 and wanted to layer in RFID cards/ Proximity cards for engineer logins on the floor of our facility.  Are there any hardware manufacturers or card types you would recommend that would work well with ThinManager and not require additional configuration beyond standard Plug & Play?

We currently support the RF readers listed here:

http://www.thinmanager.com/kb/index.php/RF-ID_Readers

RFIdeas are our current hardware partner, but you should be able to use any login devices that are compatible with the RFIdeas readers.  In this case RFIdeas would know better what cards their hardware would support.

-TM

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I am trying to setup a terminal, with 2 separate clients.  The first client is running a Rockwell FT View SE client from a server.  The second client is a workstation (PC). 

When configuring the terminal, I can only setup a single user login.  I setup the login to our server application.  As a result, I have to perform a manual login to the workstation.

Is it possible to specify two separate logins within the ThinManager terminal configuration so that I can have the client automatically login to both sessions?

 

You need to setup an override.

Double click on your terminal > Next until you come to the Display Client Selection Page > Select the Workstation Display Client > Override > Check the Override box in Windows Login Settings and specify your credentials.

-TM  

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Mar 262013
 

The Desire for Virtualization Drives ThinManager Centralized Management in Ireland

 

For decades, industrial automation in North America has seen consistent growth in both volume as well as technological development.  In many parts of the world, however, there has been a slower adoption rate of these new innovations in the manufacturing sector.  One such innovation, Virtualization, has forced companies to reexamine their stance on waiting to adopt new technologies.

Enter NeoDyne, located in Cork, Ireland.  Specializing in creating production performance monitoring and process improvement solutions, this fifteen year old system integration firm has plunged into these new technologies head first as they continue to modernize facilities across Ireland.  One of their current deployments is a Manufacturing Information System (MIS) at the main processing facility owned and operated by a global leader in the cheese and whey protein market.

Martin Farrell, the Automation Director at NeoDyne, explained to us how their customer’s desire to virtualize brought them to adopting the ThinManager Platform.  “The IT managers at their main facility had been trying to support all their standalone SCADA systems for the last 20 years.  Very early on in the planning process they decided they wanted a virtualized environment without physical servers sitting on the plant floor.  They were looking to bring all of their applications into a VMware virtualized environment that would deliver their applications to the plant floor.  At that point we advised them to adopt thin clients to replace their standalone PCs.”

It became obvious to the team at NeoDyne that updating the network infrastructure while implementing a Wonderware System Platform based architecture in a virtualized environment was going to require a centralized management solution.  “We had limited experience with Terminal Services and thin clients before this deployment but knew that this was the direction we had to go.  We did research, read a lot of articles and found ThinManager. It has turned out to be a fantastic product that allowed us to tie everything together.  It is an intuitive software platform that makes configuration and management easy,” said Martin.

Once deciding to implement all of these platforms, the first step was to tackle the challenge of integrating them with their planned thin client deployment.  Because the facility had three separate areas for cheese production, ingredients, and utilities, they decided to construct a network architecture using dual redundant I/O servers in each area from Solutions PT“The facility is still very much a Unit based production outfit.  Even though it is an automated plant, they still have a model of individual units and each unit requires its own dedicated control room. At the control level, it was a mix and match of everything, but we did put together a very organized structure on what had previously been a disparaged group of PLC platforms from Siemens to Allen-Bradley to Mitsubishi to ABB. ”

Once the architecture was firmly in place, Martin and the team at NeoDyne started applying a multitude of ThinManager Platform features to simplify everything and make the system more efficient.  “We have 2 ThinManager Servers set up in a mirrored configuration so if a thin client for any reason fails to connect to one, it automatically connects to the other. If we go home at the end of the day and one of the servers fails, we know they won’t be in the dark and we have time to get it back online with minimum disruption to the operations.”

Martin then explained some of the other ThinManager Platform features they decided to take advantage of.  “We deployed AppLink to deliver client sessions so the operators only have access to the InTouch Application without having to click around a Terminal Services session via the desktop to get to their SCADA application.  We also use it to launch a particular application so if the session crashes it will automatically reboot the application.”

NeoDyne, like many others, also uses the ThinManager Shadowing feature to provide off-site assistance by being able to remotely log into an operator’s user session and guide them through problems in real time without having to be in the facility.  However, they are also using it to reduce licensing overhead costs for their customer as well.  “Something else we have done in the facility is to allow an operator to go between two control rooms without using additional licenses via the Terminal to Terminal Shadowing feature.  We can have one session that is shadowed between two control rooms and depending on which Control Room he is in, he can take ownership of either application.  These “part time” thin clients that are used infrequently can identify as a shadowed thin client to avoid purchasing additional licenses to maximize cost efficiency.”

Their next goal was to find a way to allow the facility managers and supervisors to view the application without needing to travel through the facility.  ThinManager WinTMC made that a simple task without having to complicate the proposed facility network architecture.  “The main benefit of deploying the WinTMC feature is that it allows the plant managers and supervisors to access the application session on their desktop PCs to monitor plant performance and switch back and forth without needing additional hardware.  Also, as the PCs on the floor die they can replace them with thin clients instead of PCs as part of a continuing maintenance budget.  It gives them flexibility on how and when they buy more hardware.”

Now, more than a year since they began this project, we asked Ciaran Murphy, Automation Systems Lead for NeoDyne, how further deployment of ThinManager has been unfolding at the facility.  “What we have found is that using ThinManager to manage the thin client setup and the actual thin clients themselves down on the plant floor is allowing us to gradually retire more and more of their SCADA clients.  Their existing control systems and standalone SCADA systems are actually still there.  We put in a Manufacturing Information System (MIS) over the top to analyze plant performance.  Now, having seen the benefits of this technology, they will gradually replace their existing Thick clients on the Plant Floor with Thin Clients.  Over the next few years they will continue to replace the rest of the standalone PCs on the floor and just be left with thin clients.”

Now that ThinManager is efficiently driving the facility systems, we wondered what is next for the team at NeoDyne.  Ciaran was more than happy to tell us.  “With the success of this project, we showed other clients what ThinManager could do and are already deploying it into another ongoing project we are involved in with another major dairy here in Ireland who was impressed by the product.  Going forward, all of our future platform solutions for the next 5, 10, 20 years will have ACP ThinManager Platform as a fundamental part of our standard system designs and we will actively propose it.  To us there isn’t even a choice; if the site allows it, we will use ThinManager.”

 

ABOUT NEODYNE:  NeoDyne Plant Information Management solutions enable end user Lean Manufacturing, Process Performance Improvement, Overall Equipment Effectiveness, and Cost Improvement business transformation initiatives. The NeoDyne solution is specifically tailored for milk / food processing and combines features to manage and provide traceability for food batch manufacturing in continuous/batch processes. Plant automation and Quality/LIMS and ERP systems are joined into one unified solution.

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Mar 152013
 

 This year at the TMUG Conference, end users got the opportunity to ask Tim Caine (Chief Technology Officer) and Randy Cannady (Director of Engineering) about some of the new features in the works for the ThinManager Platform 7 release later this year, offer suggestions to improve functionality from an end user perspective , and discuss future features and options.  Questions were also fielded online from various ThinManager users around the world.  The following is a list of those questions and the responses provided at the Developers Roundtable.

 

 

1) Employees oftentimes lose their badges and must obtain new ones.  When this occurs, the Plant Engineer would like the right to change their badge number.  This requires a long process of contacting “the keepers of the servers” to make the change.  The request is to provide a function via the TermMon ActiveX Control to programmatically change the badge numbers of non-administrative Term Secure users and to automatically log the date/time when that user’s badge number has changed.

Answer-          “This is part of a series of suggestions that all have to do with updating TermSecure users via various different means.  Currently, this fix can’t be implemented because there is no active directory integration.  Once we have that, maybe this requirement would change a little bit, but I would think we could allow that to happen through the ActiveX control in some manner. “

 

 

2) What I see lacking in ThinManager is the ability to assign privileges for the various functions within ThinManager for various groups of terminals, display devices, servers, etc.  Our facilities are segmented into different areas with different individuals responsible for those areas.  Ideally, we would like to create an organizational tree within TM that mirrors our facilities/responsibilities and use Active Directory groups to manage access to ThinManager functions for the various parts of the organizational tree.  Just like a directory tree, you should be able to select inheritance, etc.

Answer-          Yes, we’ve been tossing around the idea of making it more discrete in terms of your security settings within the tree.  Right now, when you run ThinManager it inherits the Windows user you are currently logged in your PC as it applies security to what you can do in ThinManager.  But if you can modify one terminal you can modify every terminal.  If you can modify one display client, you can modify them all.  There is no way to make that more fine grained and we have been talking about various ways of doing this but it is an implementation problem with the database, not a problem with the idea.  We have to figure out how to get around that.

 And up to this point, this would be a condition when you had multiple ThinServers.  If this requirement existed now each person would have their own ThinServer and be responsible for administering their own ThinServer. This looks like more of a request to say we want to have one ThinServer but have two separate groups be able to use it so each can edit their own things so the way you would accomplish this now is each person would install their own version of ThinServer and ThinManager, and this is kind of combining that together.  It is something we’ve have talked about numerous times, and there was a way to accomplish it by having separate ThinServers but it has been requested in the past and I think this, along with some of the Active Directory integration, that this would be a logical thing to try to accomplish.  It might not be in the next version, but in a version after that it could be an extension of the Active Directory functionality we are going to have in ThinManager 7.0.

 

3) I know you currently have no plans for a Windows 8 WinTMC application.  However, is it on your road map as an option?  Also, what about other Tablet OS besides Apple?  And have you considered a generic Browser based client ability?

Answer-          “We are planning on releasing it for the Android Platform as a client base, not actually ThinManager, though we would consider it if there was enough interest.  When Windows comes out with the new Non RT Surface Tablets you will be able to use them.  But if you want to use a Windows 8 Tablet you’ll have to get the “non RT” version.  As far as having a local browser on the terminal we have discussed it but one of the problems is the expectation of a browser.  Can it run Active X?  Can it run Flash?  All of these plugins people use now in a browser have become an expectation, which might not be realistic.  We can, however, implement a Microsoft Active X with RDP but only with Internet Explorer.”

 

4) Can I run ThinManager on a virtual machine?

Answer -         “Yes.  Also, there is a Virtual Client ability (Virtual Terminal) under VMware or HyperV you can set up a virtual machine with the smallest hard drive you can give it and the most minimal settings and PXE Boot so if you are doing testing you can run a virtual terminal on a tablet or laptop and it will behave exactly like a terminal on the floor.”

 

 

5) I would like to know if there is a way to use the MultiMonitor feature of the latest MS RDP version on Thin Manager terminals. We have applications that run over two screens that we are unable to run in two distinct RDP sessions.

Answer-          “Currently we can span two monitors in a single session or two different sessions on two monitors.  When you span a single session across two monitors and you maximize the application it goes across both monitors.  The way Microsoft implemented this is when maximizing an application in a dual monitor configuration it maximizes on one monitor, allowing two maximized applications on two monitors.  We have discussed adding the Microsoft support for multiple monitors to our RDP client.  There are two components to this, and both will require manually resizing one or the other.  Depending on the application, when you restart the session, it might or might not have to be manually resized.”

 

6) Can we rotate the large, wide screen monitor to take advantage of a 90 degree rotation 1050×1680 resolution that would nicely tile two panels vertically using all of the screen real-estate?

Answer-          “There is definitely something we can do there to create a setting allowing the user to choose between landscape or portrait mode in a single display mode.  However, it will create an issue when you combine that with MultiMonitor and that gets a lot more difficult to allow for multiple configurations.”

 

 

7) Touchscreen technology and LCD technology changes so rapidly – how I can always be sure that the touchscreens I’m buying will be compatible through ACP ThinManager?

Answer-          “The one way to always be certain is to send it to us and we will test it.  Part of the challenge we face is that touchscreen manufacturers are not very good about specifying what controller is in their unit.  The manufacturer of the actual product isn’t nearly as important as the touch controller that is in it.   Most manufacturers don’t make their own controllers, so finding out which controller is actually being used in the unit is the difficult part.  That is why we have hardware partners, because we know what is being used in every model they produce and certify as ThinManager Ready.”

 

 

8] Can you add a feature to easily copy/duplicate a display client, so we can create new/similar display clients for troubleshooting purposes?

Answer-          “We have discussed adding convenience features like this.  We have generally stayed away from things like Drag and Drop because of the inherent risk via operator error.  However, we can add a feature to copy settings and allow for it to be populated elsewhere.”

 

 

9) Can you add TermMon access groups to ThinManager tree to make them easier to see and manage?

Answer-          “We certainly could.  The 7.0 version of ThinManager will have a different user interface that looks completely different so you will have many more options for what you can see in the tree.  You are going to be able to add or remove nodes from the tree to personalize your view depending on what is important for you to see.”

 

 

10) Can you include the ability to add descriptions to cameras (like with thin clients) and allow terminal/camera descriptions to be visible in tool tip when hovering over in tree?

Answer-          “Recently we added descriptions to terminals and we can add them to any piece of the tree.  And I like the tool tip idea.  After all, what good is a description if you can’t get to it easily.  We could also add it to Terminal Servers.”

 

 

11) Can you add to iTMC functionality by adding support to terminal shadow display clients and the ability to use the integrated iPad camera as barcode scanner (the scanned barcode would wedge to app with focus)?

Answer-          “We are already working on adding iTMC support to terminal shadow display clients.  As far as using the iPad camera for iTMC applications, we have had that request a few times just to be able to see what someone else is seeing at a different location from another terminal or in the control room and it is something we are looking at.  The scanner would be difficult because it would have to be integrated as a keyboard wedge, but we are looking into different ways to integrate barcode scanners.”

 

 

12) Can you include “Idle Time” and “Log On Time” to User Sessions in the ThinManager tabs?

Answer-          “I haven’t looked at this in four or five years, but I remember not being able to add this feature.  It may be available now, but my first impression is that I would have added this if I could have.  We will check to see if it is something we can integrate into the newer ThinManager versions.”

 

 

13) Can you add the ability to disable a display client instead of the whole terminal server?

Answer-          “That has been requested in the past and we are working on adding some more disable functionality from within the tree, and not only display clients but possibly disabling other items that are in there.   There are many nodes in the tree where we can add this. With the new MultiStation features it is much more likely that you will want to disable a particular station as opposed to the whole client.”

 

 

14) Terminals are most easily viewed in “Terminals” part of tree, but the default for this is a hierarchy of inherited features.  A Terminal “Area Model” would be a really convenient way to organize/view clients based on area or geography within a single facility or across multiple sites.  Is this change possible?

Answer-          “You can organize the tree based on location or department as opposed to inheritance.  And then you can also make an organization flow for part of the list before it drops into inheritance but that is the only thing I can think of under the current configuration.  Perhaps we could add a location or description tag to a terminal and then be able to search or filter the tree based on the tag.”

 

 

15) Can you add the ability to “bulk edit” everything as an alternative to the GUI? Most useful for me would be Users, Terminals, and Access Groups.  Perhaps you could add some sort of an Excel/CSV export/import tool.

Answer-          “We’ve had various requests similar to this.  Our biggest problem with this is that the settings are fairly interconnected and it is pretty hard to manually edit a configuration and end up with a valid configuration and we don’t want the end user to end up with a big mess.”

 

 

16) Can you add the ability to shadow multiple display clients simultaneously and tile view a multiple terminal shadow session?  I often need to reboot multiple terminals, but want to check to make sure the terminals are not in use first.  Currently, I have to individually shadow each terminal, then reboot/restart all/selected terminals.

Answer-          “When we release ThinManager 7.0 later this year, you will be able to “tear off” a Shadowed tab and tie it to the specific thin client in the tree.  So as you move around the tree it will stay on the terminal as you move it around.  If you tear away multiple shadows, we can allow you to put them together and tile them.”

 

 

17) To minimize predefined display clients, I often have one display client and use the override settings to make minor customizations, however I can only have one instance of the display client per terminal. Could multiple instances of a display client be included on the same Terminal?

Answer-          “No.  We have talked about it and we have yet to find a way to make this a simple implementation.  But we will continue to look at it after the ThinManager 7.0 release.”

 

 

18) Can you add the ability to query the ThinManager database to create custom reports?

Answer-          “You can do that.  Right now there is a report tab that takes an html file and either an SQL query or a tickle script to create a custom report to enhance or customize the report tab feature.”

 

 

19) What is the status of support for Windows 8 and Windows 2012 Server?

Answer-          “It works fine with both.  The only hiccup in that is the install program that we are using is InstallShield and the version we are using doesn’t play nice with either so you have to run it in compatibility mode to get it installed but that problem should be fixed in the next Service Pack update (ThinManager 6.0 SP3).”

 

 

20) I understand it may be not possible to enable PXE boot over a wireless connection, but would it be possible to arrange some support for wireless terminals without the need for a local wired connection to a router?

Answer-          “You can PXE Boot over a wireless connection, but the device has to have PXE support via the manufacturer.”

 

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Mar 012013
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

 

We are looking to add some eGalax touch monitors to our facility.  Are they compatible with ThinManager via RS232 or USB?

 

ThinManager 6.0 SP2 has a module for eGalax touch screens. The module in this picture is for RS232 Connectivity, with the USB Touch Screen Driver Module providing support via USB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-TM                        

 

 

Do you have a hardware list of Video / CPU/ Network cards supported by the ACP driver provided with PXE Package?

Please see our XLi Compatibility list for a list of thin clients that have been tested by ACP and confirmed working with XLi.

http://www.thinmanager.com/complist/

-TM                     

 

 

We have a bunch of sites that have existing thin clients currently running ThinManager 4. We are looking to upgrade to version 6 Xli in the near future. So I have 2 questions.

  1. Are the following thin clients supported? 
    1. 6824-ACP
    2. 7824-ACP
    3. UNO-2053E
        2.  What is the upgrade path from Thin Manager 4 to Thin Manager 6 Xli?

 

All of those models should work fine with ThinManager 6.0.  


Upgrading is a fairly painless process.  Basically:
- Turn off automatic synchronization if you’re using it.
- Run the ThinManager 6.0 installer.
- Turn automatic synchronization back on.
- Reactivate your master license with the new installation IDs.

-TM              

 

Could you please tell me if ThinManager 6 is supported on Windows Server 2012 or what time frame you have for implementation?

 

ThinManager 6+ is compatible with Windows Server 2012 as long as you run the installer in Windows 7 Compatibility Mode.   With the upcoming release of ThinManager 6.0 SP3 (check back here next week for release date and specifics), installing in compatibility mode will not be an issue.

-TM

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Jan 112013
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

 

We have configured our network to see our 2nd ThinManager server as PXE secondary server. After testing some of our terminals they succeeded in seeing and getting the image from our 2nd server.

Now, for balancing purposes Is there a way we can tell which ones are being assisted by the primary and secondary server?

 

The PXE boot process isn’t load balanced.  For a synchronized pair of ThinManager servers all PXE requests will be replied to by the master server.  If that server fails then the secondary will begin replying to PXE requests.

You can check the boot server on the bottom of the properties tab for a selected terminal.

We also have a quick video which discusses our PXE Server here.

-TM                        

 

 

We recently added a number of new client to our ThinManager system, however when we try to shadow these clients we see the error “Client Connection aborted”.  Is there anything that has been known to cause this issue or anything that I can get from the system which may further indicate as to what is causing this? Our existing clients work fine.  Are there any logs to check?

 

It sounds like a network issue.  Make sure Windows Firewall is off or appropriately patched, and that there are no hardware firewalls in the network.

Below is a link with all of our port information:

http://www.thinmanager.com/kb/index.php/Ports

-TM                     

 

 

I have found that a new windows update KB2762895 has now made WinTMC inoperable on my Windows 64 bit machine.  Is there a fix for this?

 

We just released a new version of WinTMC, you can download it from our downloads site:

http://downloads.thinmanager.com/ 

-TM              

 

 

We are experiencing an auto-synchronization is the issue, and had to turn off the auto-sync feature.  What user does the auto-synchronization use to access the other server?

 

It uses the account that was specified for the service when ThinManager is initially installed.  You can check it by going to:
Administrative Tools > Services, finding ThinServer, right-click > properties, and then select the Log On tab.  
If a specific account isn’t specified it will use the local system account.

-TM

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Jan 042013
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

 

I have an HP thin client dual monitor display extended setting mode with resolution 3840 by 1200.  Will ThinManager be able to support the MultiMonitor with extended mode?

 

The MultiMonitor feature will allow a session to span 2+ monitors. The maximum resolution supported in an RDP Session (an RDP session may span multiple monitors) is 4096×2048.

-TM                        

 

 

We are currently using ThinManager 4.0 and are looking to upgrade to Windows Server 2008 as well as ThinManager 6.0 Xli.  When I look at the Xli compatibility list, our thin client (Arista ARP-1615AP-ACP) is not in there.  I’m a little confused as to what Xli is.  Does that mean our thin client will not work with version 6.0?

 

XLi is a ThinManager licensing platform that was introduced as an all in one’ licensing package, that allows for unlimited functionality (up to your connection count) of the software. The XLi Compatibility List is a list of clients that we have tested that will PXE (Network) Boot from ThinManager. The Advantage of using PXE booting with XLi is that it allows for many more choices of Thin Clients (possibly some that we have not even tested here in the office).

If your clients were supported by ThinManager 4.0 then it is compatible with all newer versions as well.  Each new release of the software will only expand the list of makes/models supported, not reduce it.

-TM                     

 

 

We are currently upgrading to ThinManager 6.0 as well as adding new thin clients.  We have mirrored redundancy on two Microsoft Server 2008 R2 servers. Each terminal has 4 or more display clients.  After 30+ seconds of no user input, the terminal switches to a tiled display, even though only 1 of the display clients is initiated at boot-up and actually active.  I don’t want the tiled display unless the operator specifically chooses it from the display client selection drop-down.  I’ve removed the MultiSession screen saver module from the terminals, but it is still happening.  How do I turn off the automatic tiling?

 

Open the Terminal Configuration Wizard, navigate to the Terminal Interface Options page and select the Tiling Options button to launch the Tile Options window.
Setting the Tile Inactivity Time (secs) to “0″ will keep it from tiling automatically.

-TM              

 

 

We are currently using ThinManager 6.0 XLi and have a standalone PC on the plant floor controlling a device.  This standalone PC is normally accessed/viewed using VNC through iFix.  Can we setup a display client to use VNC to connect to this standalone PC?

 

You can install WinTMC and the WinTMC Shadow Client on this PC and use the Terminal Shadow display client to view the desktop from that terminal.
You will need to make sure the Shadow Port number is set to 5900, which is the standard VNC port. You will also need to change it in ThinManager so we don’t conflict with your existing VNC deployment. This is changed on the Shadow Configuration page of the ThinManager Server Configuration Wizard. 

-TM

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Dec 212012
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

I am currently running ThinManager 3.2 with a number of thick client running WinTMC 2.0.0.0. We are planning to add a new terminal and this terminal will not connect the servers. The only install file I have access to for setting up the new terminal is WinTMC 1.0.0.2. Is there an install file for WinTMC 2.0.0.0?

 

The v2 WinTMC is in our TM6 download section at http://downloads.thinmanager.com/

They can get it there as a free download.

-TM                        

 

 

We are having an issue with a new terminal we’re setting up. We are currently using ThinManager 6.0 and have a Termtek thin client, which when it starts and we select a session, runs fine. But when switching to our new Uno 3172, it boots up and displays a ThinManager 5.0 logo. It then says that the terminal is configured to use package 6, restarts, loads with a ThinManager 6.0 logo and works OK.  How can I set the default terminal to use package 6 at initial boot up? 

 

Go to Manage>Packages to change default package.

Or select allow Package at Individual.

If your client was running 5 you might have to manually set it to 6 while turned off from replacement.

-TM                     

 

 

On our server there is application that makes a SQL connection.  During the failover process, the application on the redundant server must start up and make the same SQL connection.  How does the server know to open the “right” application and make the correct SQL connection and what happens with the sql data during this failover process?

 

Usually the SQL call is made by the user account. If each terminal has a unique user then the SQL call source will remain the same regardless of failover.

Or they do it by IP. If that is the case they need to code it to use the unique terminal IP and not the communal server IP.

-TM              

 

 

Please advise whether a new windows group in Windows Server and added into the “Thinmanager Security Group” can allow control of only a single terminal group. I can’t find any specific configuration to perform this.

 

The ThinManager Security Groups are global. A setting here affects all users.  If you want to control access to an application on a terminal you can use TermSecure Access Groups and the Permission button to limit access to members of that group.-

-TM

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Dec 122012
 

For over a decade, Automation Control Products (ACP) has been changing how the industrial automation sector does business in the competitive, fast paced, global marketplace with the ThinManager Platform.  Today, ACP is a worldwide leader in the automation industry that provides full-feature centralized thin client and terminal server management software.  Our unique platform offers trendsetting centralized management solutions for the modern factory by simplifying management of applications and visual resources.  When combined with ACP’s ThinManager, each client has performance and features unmatched by products from any other company.

In March of 2012, we published an article after speaking with B.K. Wallace, an Infrastructure Server Analyst for Chevron North America Exploration and Production, regarding their upcoming pilot project using a custom ThinManager Platform system to eventually manage all of their North American CO2 facilities (PDF available here).  After months of testing and implementation, AutomationWorld contacted ACP, as well as Chevron, to do a follow-up story about this successful deployment:

 

Thin client management software and multi-monitor technology enables bottom-line savings and speedy implementation for a control room retrofit pilot project at Chevron North America.

By Grant Gerke, Digital Managing Editor

West Texas is home to tumbleweeds, horses, desolate highways and Chevron North America oil and gas fields. This venerable oil producer’s drive for efficiency led to a successful pilot project that employs thin client software from Automation Controls Products (ACP, www.thinmanager.com). With the ThinManager Platform, Chevron is reducing hardware and maintenance costs by utilizing “thin” PC clients instead of traditional, more expensive PC hardware.

 

The ThinManager software platform monitors a Chevron oil and gas operation, where CO2 is stripped from subsurface rock that contains oil deposits. The complex process monitors valves, pumps and flow meters in a rugged, hot environment, and where equipment life spans are short. Chevron North America saw an opportunity to reduce maintenance and equipment purchases with thin client technology.

 

Thin client technology includes terminal services, virtualization, virtual desktop interface (VDI) and thin client PCs, which have no hard drives, no storage space and no programs to upload or update. Also, the thin client PC by default is using five-to-six year old PC boards, and usually does not have an operating system. Applications are delivered from one central location—in this case, with the ThinManager 6.0 XLi software—which makes installation and configuration very efficient…

 

You can read the rest of the article here.

 

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Dec 072012
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

We have noticed that when an iTMC iPad client “Auto-Lock”s (max setting of 15 min) all sessions on the terminal servers are logged off/closed.  When the iPad is then unlocked/turned back on, the sessions all need to reconnect, which is very time consuming.  Is there any way to have the terminal sessions just “disconnect”/”stat running” not “end”?

 

iTMC, by default, “disconnects” from an in progress session instead of “ending” a session, meaning that if properly configured the session will remaining running on your Terminal Server and iTMC should reconnect to it. Please see this MS TechNote on Remote Desktop disconnect/reconnect settings for 2008 r2:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc754272.aspx

An alternative would be to disable the screen lock timer, which would prevent the device from sleeping.
-TM

 

Can I get one thin client (Arista 3200-AP) to display the same display client on multiple monitors using a USB to VGA adaptor without mirroring or spanning? I have Wonderware Intouch configured as a display client and I want one thin client to put that display client on each monitor. That would give the operators the ability to view two different Intouch windows simultaneously.  Can this be done?

 

You could add another DisplayClient that is a duplicate of the display client you would like to use (same path, command line arguments, etc). When you come to the “Display Client Selection” screen when reconfiguring the Terminal, you will need to set an override for the user/pass on the second display client.  By default, ThinManager uses the user/pass specified at the terminal level to login to your terminal server. If you have multiple identical sessions (defined as a user/pass and initial application combo) connecting to a server, the first session will be established and the second will connect to the established session, thusly booting the first session off. When the first goes to reconnect it will take bake its original session.

An override will allow a separate user/pass to be specified to avoid bouncing sessions. The user/pass specified should be a valid windows account, whether on your AD or locally to the terminal server because it will be used to log into your terminal server.
-TM

 

We are using WinTMC to control our terminal server in our control room through a desktop computer.  We have thin clients installed in the field that connect to this server as well.  Our problem is with using WinTMC and using multiple monitors.  Our monitors are 27” widescreen monitors set to a resolution of 2560 x 1440, so there are no available selections in the setup to allow for this format.  Is there was a way to use WinTMC to drag and drop the sessions as you would do an internet explorer screen?  This screen currently is not movable on this screen.  If there is any way to move this on the screen or any way to help us make the system work for application it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

There are a couple of options.  If you have configured the WinTMC terminal for multi-monitor support, you can disable MultiMonitor and then move the WinTMC program around just like a normal program.  If you really want to use multi-monitor support in ThinManager then set the video mode to “Full Screen”
-TM

 

 

Are you familiar with any app that would “lock down” the basic iPad functionality (settings, etc) such that our plant users would only be able to run just iTMC?  We are looking for the same user experience as on a thin client with app links.  Maybe a menu app that auto-launches and needs a password to exit, etc?

 

With the release of iOS 6, and the “Guided Access” feature, this can be done via the basic functionality of the operating system.  Please refer to the following blog article, which also contains a link to a short video which demonstrates how to set this permission:

http://blogs.thinmanager.com/thinclients/?p=1638
-TM

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Dec 072012
 

Every Friday, we dedicate this space to sharing solutions for some of the most frequently asked questions posed to our ThinManager Technical Support team.  This weekly feature will help educate ThinManager Platform users and provide them with answers to questions they may have about licenses, installation, integration, deployment, upgrades, maintenance, and daily operation.  Great technical support is an essential part of the ThinManager Platform, and we are constantly striving to make your environment as productive and efficient as possible.

 

I am currently using a Cisco(LinkSys) WVC80N Wireless Monitoring Camera on our system to look at our production line.  I have added them to ThinManager. However when I connect, I see the webpage that is hosted on the camera, but when I select “View Video,” I get this message:

Security Warning. Do you want to install this software. Name: LinksysMLViewer.cab

if I click install, the video page opens but there is no video feed, just a square with a red “X.” If I click refresh I get a script warning error.  I can see the other pages of the web site.  What do I do?

 

You need to install their ActiveX or Java app and run as an administrator to see the video feed in the browser in ThinManager.

When the video is sent to a client it is displayed in a video engine provided by the ThinManager.Camera Display Client. You have to provide an administrative account and the display client handles everything else.

To view the video with in ThinManager itself we launch a browser and connect to the camera. Usually this requires the installation of an ActiveX or Java program contained on the camera to be the container for the video feed. You have to be an administrator to run it.

-TM

 

I have recently set up a new Win Server 2008 R2 Terminal server but I am getting the following error:

“Access is denied.  This initial program can not be started.”

The application I am trying to run is Internet explorer (C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe). I have logged on as the user and I can run this manually, can you suggest what might me the problem?

 

You will need to whitelist IE in the Remote App Manager:

Start > Administrative Tools > Remote Desktop Settings > RemoteApp Manager

From here you may either allow all applications to be started: RD Session Host Server Settings > Change > Allow users to start both listed and unlisted programs on initial connection.

Or

You may add IE to your whitelisted programs by clicking “Add RemoteApp Programs” on the right.

-TM

 

Our current application has 144 screens and we want to use iTMC with an iPad that will be connecting via 3G to monitor sessions. Will this affect the speed of seeing the screens and any effect regarding the data size being exchanged?

It depends. The bandwidth used by iTMC is the same as the bandwidth used by RDP Protocol. This bandwidth can vary a lot depending on what applications you are running, the size of the screen, color depth, and other factors.

Here’s a few posts regarding this question …

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/is/winserverTS/thread/5efbaaac-c45f-4520-a2b4-97dd7d2ff66e

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2009/03/03/top-10-rdp-protocol-misconceptions-part-1.aspx

With that being said, we have never encountered an issue with low bandwidth while using iTMC.

-TM

 

Do you have any update on when “Terminal Shadow” display clients will be available in iTMC? We have an immediate need for this feature if it is currently available.

 

If you are looking to shadow a specific terminal, I suggest using ThinManager Mobile which has the ability to shadow terminals:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/thinmanager/id419214021?mt=8

Please see the wiki article for more information:

http://www.thinmanager.com/wiki/index.php/ThinManager_Mobile

-TM

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